stunt_muppet | Why sure, let's have another meme.

L&O! (I'd like to hear someone else's view on it; not that I'm a fan, just that it gets filmed in my neighborhood.)

not that I'm a fan, just that it gets filmed in my neighborhood.

For starters, that is awesome.

Unpopular opinions:

1. I actually liked Nina Cassady. She'll never be my favorite character, because she was only there for one season, but she played well off Ed and had a nice, forthright newness to her (I don't know if that makes any sense, but there you go). I think she was good for Ed during his first run as senior detective.

2. There have been way too damn many cast changes in the past three years. I know that the show lives and dies by its rotating cast, but the past three seasons have cleared out almost everybody, leaving me the viewer no time to get used to each new addition and get a feel for how they work with the team. I could handle Nina and Connie's addition since Jack, Ed, and Van Buren were still there, but taking out Ed and bringing in a whole new detective before I had a chance to 'break in' Lupo? Not cool.

3. Ed Green deserved so much better than "Burn Card". That's all I have to say about that.

Lady Lovelocks... No, wait - Doctor Who!

*snerk*

1. I prefer Old Old-Skool to New Old-Skool. There are exceptions, of course, but midway through the Fourth Doctor era I feel like the show just...loses something. I like Five and Seven and Eight, really I do, and I'm sure I'll like Six more once I hear some of his audios, but for some reason it's One through early!Four that I keep coming back to. I don't think this is any fault of the actors, nor do I think it can be blamed entirely on JNT, and maybe it's just my current fannish phase, but...I don't know.

2. I like Adric, and I don't think it's fair that he's the only companion you're allowed to dump on without anyone leaping to his defense. It's not his fault Big Finish never got a crack at him.

3. I like the Three/Delgado!Master dynamic more than the Ten/Simm!Master one. I don't think the one's necessarily better than the other - it's just personal preference.

4. Along with The Massace, Evil of the Daleks, The Highlanders and their ilk, Mission to the Unknown is one of the great tragedies of the burnination. I don't think this is an unpopular opinion so much as an obscure one.

I like the Three/Delgado!Master dynamic more than the Ten/Simm!Master one. I don't think the one's necessarily better than the other - it's just personal preference.

Amen and hallelujah.

(And I kind of agree with your opinion #1 also. I think it's why I haven't felt the burning need to see all of the 4-6 Doctor eps like I did with 1-3. Black and White WHO was superior to color.)

I think it's why I haven't felt the burning need to see all of the 4-6 Doctor eps like I did with 1-3.

I've done the same thing - while my first run through any Doctor's era is always the "highlights" run, with One through Three and most of Four I wanted to go back and watch all of them, even the purportedly rubbish ones. I haven't felt that need yet with the later Doctors. (Although I do really want to finish Seven's stories all the way through - Paradise Towers is all cued up and ready to go.)

1) I'm so weird about old Who. I love 1-3 and Four's era through Leela, but the Romana era lacks a lot of lustre for me. (Kinda feels like they're putting on shows for themselves in their living room, and unengaging ones at that.) And then -- god knows, it has its problems -- I somehow love Five's era. 6-7 I haven't seen much of, but it seems to lack whatever it was that made Five transcend the eighties-ness.

2) It's really unfair. I see people spewing disproportionately vicious things about someone who's just a sometimes YES, very ass-y kid, but he was helpful and (I thought) kinda funny and definitely not near so bad as to merit such disturbingly hateful remarks.

3) I can't decide. I love them all so very hard. <3

4) Possibly Mission to the Unknown would've kept me interested if it hadn't been burninated. I watched it 'cause it was short and there. It had a promising story but NO DOCTOR OMG. I liked the thorn thing.

1)I love 1-3 and Four's era through Leela, but the Romana era lacks a lot of lustre for me.

Me too! And it's wierd, because it's Romana, dammit, I like Romana, but...I don't know. Maybe I'm just a Robert Holmes-loving heathen and too ashamed to admit it. :D

2) The disproportionality is what gets to me - I could understand people not liking him, but the sheer intensity of the hate he gets scares me sometimes, and I'm all the way on the other side of the screen.

4) I'm just intrigued by the fact that there was a Doctor-less episode almost fourty years before "Love and Monsters" came along. It was such a bold risk for a program that was already taking a lot of them, and I think it's really a sign that the 'verse was solid even back then and could hold up on its own. Also, I'm a sucker for creepy transformative body horror, particularly when done low-budget (see: unnatural love for The Ark in Space).

<3333 Ark in Space omg. One of my earliest Whos! And I just thought it was fun writing and the Wirrn were interesting and even the bubble wrap half-eating Noah's body was freaky.

One of my earliest too! In fact, I'm pretty sure it was my second Tom Baker story (first one was The Power of Kroll on public TV at two in the morning).

And I love and was freaked out by the bubblewrap and I am NOT ASHAMED OF THAT. So long as they don't zoom in too close it doesn't look like bubblewrap to me anyway.

The funny thing is, my first contact with Doctor Who was from Arc of Infinity onwards, so I became a fan through the JNT days. My father sometimes watched a few minutes and asked me why on earth did I watch that, but I never could find an answer - I just did. Then Ace came along, around the same time I got my hands on The Pertwee Years and The Troughton Years and caught a glimpse of Jo and Jamie; I think my reaction was "Ooh, so that's why I like it!"

I actually rather like Arc of Infinity - there was some good stuff in Five's and Six's era, and the latter half of Seven's era started to go back to the 'feel' of the show that I liked in the early years.

And I like your dad's reaction. Like you actually need a reason, anyway. :D

I like it too. I just wish I had seen The Three Doctors before it, so that I could have been surprised with Omega's reappearance.

And I like your dad's reaction. Like you actually need a reason, anyway. :D
That's the way he is. He often decides something is good or bad before he even gives it a chance, and will force people to rationalize why they like something he disapproves. *shakes head* I'm used to it.
Anyway, now that he's discovered the new series by accident, having seen Rose without realizing it was Doctor Who until after he was hooked, he has changed his opinion, though he'll still insist that the '80s stories are all terrible without giving them a chance.

Anyway, now that he's discovered the new series by accident, having seen Rose without realizing it was Doctor Who until after he was hooked, he has changed his opinion.

Hah! Excellent. That's too bad about the '80s episodes, though; no chance of sneaking one of those in without him realizing it?

Well, even though he'll probably recognize Five, I'd like to show him The Caves of Androzani one day. Let's wait and see.

(the funny thing is? He loves The Tomorrow People)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't The Tomorrow People even more Eighties than Eighties Who was? With the sets and costumes and general excess of shiny things?

*shrug*

Exactly. That's how his bias works - he might like something that's similar (or, in this situation, more excessive) but if he's decided he's not going to like something, he won't.
Mind you, I think he's only seen the very early seasons of the old series of TP, which were visually more subdued and closer to the Third Doctor era (I think that's the time those early seasons were made, now that I think about it), and the new series (with that girl from Pirates of the Caribbean), which was made a few years after the cancellation of Old Who.

STAR WARS! (How fun is this meme?!)

This meme is so much fun.

1. What bothered me most about Episode 1 was not the dodgy acting or the dodgier script but those damn midichlorions. I hated that plot device even when I was thirteen (or however old I was when the movies came out) and couldn't yet distinguish bad acting. The midichlorions destroy the very concept of the Force as it existed in the original trilogy, turning it from a universal presence that anyone who was willing to trust it and learn its ways could work with to a Super Speshul Power restricted to a certain biological caste. I hate the midichlorions.

2. Speaking of the prequels, I didn't hate Jar Jar Binks until fandom told me to. I didn't like him, but I didn't loathe him and wish him dead, either. He was just kind of there.

3. I've read very little of the EU and don't really intend to read any more. I'm not into the fandom enough for it to be a problem, and frankly I haven't got that kind of time and money and have no idea where I'd even start.

4. I...erm...actually like Luke? Movie!Luke, not just EU!Luke? I have no idea if that's unpopular or not.

I...erm...actually like Luke? Movie!Luke, not just EU!Luke? I have no idea if that's unpopular or not.

HAHAHAHAHAHA. I think it just might be, but I certainly share it. I mean Leia will always be one of my favorite characters in history, but she was raised in a loving family and brought up to be a leader and a stateswoman. Luke, on the other hand, grew up without any purpose of direction of his own. While I'm sure Owen and Beru did the best they could for him, he was absolutely raised in the shadow of his father and Owen's hatred of Anakin and that life. So, I don't blame him for being a whiny little bitch in the first movie. And I think Hamill did an AMAZING job of showing Luke's transformation from child to Jedi. (Woh, sorry that was such a long-winded response.)

What bothered me most about Episode 1 was not the dodgy acting or the dodgier script but those damn midichlorions.

You know what? I think I have actively and successfully removed that entire plot device from my head-canon. It just never happened. I honestly had forgotten all about it or I would have included it myself. ABSOLUTELY stupid. You are 100% right.

I am okay with long-winded responses. :D

And I think Hamill did an AMAZING job of showing Luke's transformation from child to Jedi.

I think so, too, which is one of the reasons I like him so much. His whole arc is about him growing and maturing into the Jedi role; it wouldn't make any sense for him not to be a child, with all the attendant petulance and rebellion, at the beginning.

I think I have actively and successfully removed that entire plot device from my head-canon. It just never happened.

QUOTED FOR TRUTH. At least the Powers That Be had the good grace never to mention it again. (Did they? I might have blocked it out.)

At least the Powers That Be had the good grace never to mention it again. (Did they? I might have blocked it out.)

See?! It was so stupid we have managed to effectively erase it from canon! Even if they did mention it again, I didn't hear a word of it. ;-)

Sweet! We've altered canon through sheer force of will! I've always wanted to do that!

I prefer to believe it was through the power of the force.

*waves hands* There are no such things as midichlorions...you've made a terrible scripting error...

4) I love Luke! OMG. So much. He's my favorite. Especially in A New Hope, in fact. (Which is my favorite of the movies, going further into unpopular opinion territory.) He was mopey at the beginning, but he didn't grate and I felt for him, and then he went on to spend lots of time putting in lots of effort despite lots of frustration.

He was mopey at the beginning, but he didn't grate and I felt for him.

Exactly! He's stuck out on a farm in the middle of absolute fucking nowhere with nothing to do for fun but fly and shoot at the local fauna. I think he's earned a bit of whining. And even just over the course of A New Hope, he grows up so much, taking on whatever's required of him. I am very fond of Luke.

SVU, since I'm not super familiar with any of the rest. :D

Hmm...do I have unpopular opinions for SVU? Let's see.

1. Brian Cassidy was a really fun character and should've stayed on longer than a season. I think it would have been interesting to see him develop.

2. I don't ship Olivia/Casey the way I ship Alex/Olivia, but aside from that I like Casey just fine. She isn't Alex, but I don't dislike her for not being Alex.

3. I can handle Dr. Huang in small doses. I even like him in small doses. But when he's in the majority of an episode he kind of gets on my nerves.

...no idea whether or not these are actually unpopular, mind you.

Pirates!

All right, then!

1. He was a bit meh in Curse of the Black Pearl, but by At World's End Will Turner had become an actually viable and, in my opinion, interesting character in his own right. There's much to be made of his continued association with Jack, his single-minded fixation on a father he doesn't even know, and just where Elizabeth fits into all this; granted, they never really went into it on screen, but still.

2. The entire Cannibal Island sequence in Dead Man's Chest could have been excised without doing the movie any harm. I still skip those scenes when I watch. Except for the one where everyone's rolling around in a giant hamster ball, because watching Kevin McNally and Orlando Bloom scream and flail is so worth it.

3. I really liked Cutler Beckett in At World's End. Again, he was meh in Dead Man's Chest, but in AWE we get to watch him play off both Jack and Davy Jones, and I love watching his poker-faced calm play off their more unpredictable natures. I wish there was more fic about him.

Burn Notice!

...gosh, I don't even know what the popular opinions are. Well, here goes:

1. Michael and Fiona are never going to have a happy, uncomplicated relationship, at least not a romantic one. Neither of them is accustomed to normal interpersonal relations, and both of them are really quite disfunctional in certain critical ways. Which is not to say that they can't work together, live together, or like each other - I just don't think a romance would work for them.

2. I didn't like False Flag. Which is a shame. I wanted to like it, what with Lucy Lawless being in it, but it just got so heavyhanded about Michael's family issues. I didn't think it was in character for someone as quick-thinking and calculating as Michael to completely lose his judgement because of a job's passing similarity to his own family. There were better ways to pull that off.

3. Sam and Fiona should work together more often; they play so well off each other.

Yeah, kinda hard to have unpopular opinions in such a new fandom. Personally I don't think there's any chemistry between Michael and Fiona, which I suppose would be an upopular opinion.

I don't know; I've met a few people at least who share that opinion or don't feel one way or the other about them.

Much though I moan about no fic and few icons and stuff, one of the advantages to a new and tiny fandom is that nobody gets into pissing matches about these things. So refreshing. :D

I just noticed House is on the list. So, uh, House!

Um...I've already noticed that we differ on a few of these, so here's to hoping there'll be no drama. :D

1. Liked Thirteen; didn't like Amber. I liked Amber better once she was no longer competing for a job, but her competitiveness during the early episodes struck me as needlessly callous and calculating, and while I can deal with that coming from the title character, getting it from two characters at once was more than I wanted to deal with.

2. On that note, I really disliked the Survivor: Princeton-Plainsboro aspect of early Season 4. It dragged on too long, it detracted from the actual cases, it made everyone seem incompetent, and none of the people I really liked got hired. I stopped watching until it was over.

3. I don't hate Stacy Warner. She's not my Favoritest Character Ever, but I liked her, and I liked the glimpse we got of her and House, back when he might have been capable of a functional relationship with anyone.

4. I resented the writers' attempts to explain away House's antipathy with parental abuse. Not that I doubt that parental abuse could do such a thing to a person, but I liked him better when he was a cantankerous bastard just because he was a cantankerous bastard. Plus, so many characters on TV have backstories of child abuse or neglect that it was refreshing to have a main character without one.

I even pulled out of aspects of the fandom I shared interests with because I'm so damn over that fandom's drama. And, heh, now I'm wondering which ones we differ, 'cause the ones you've listed make sense to me.

1) I like both as characters, and I agree about preferring Amber once she wasn't in the running for a job anymore. Because, well, I didn't feel she deserved the job. She kept trying to manipulate her way out of actually having to do the work, and I'm not into that. As much as House himself plays at being lazy, he does the work.

2) It made for some fun moments, but that arc just felt disposable as a whole. I can barely remember much about it, and the fourth season of House didn't get properly good until it came back from the strike, I thought.

3) I don't hate Stacy, either. Sometimes she's in fact rather awesome. I like the idea of her relationship with House as it was in the past. It's just that return arc. Oh god. Three times as long as it needed to be, kept retreading the same tired points that made me sick of the both of them even though I didn't actually dislike them, and ultimately exploded in an abrupt display of what I truly believe is massive out-of-character-ness on the part of House.

4) I always figure there's got to be a reason behind such attitudes, but it doesn't necessarily have to be an explanation so extreme, that much I agree with. But I like the father backstory because, in combination with the bit of the father we've seen, I think it's really interesting how similar the two are in a lot of ways. Probably House wouldn't be actively abusive though, I don't think.

I even pulled out of aspects of the fandom I shared interests with because I'm so damn over that fandom's drama.

Good for you. I wasn't really in the fandom much at all - I floated on the periphery most of the time - but even there the bickering and backbiting and STUFF just got to me.

1) and 2) are absolutely signed. I think the reason the hiring arc makes me so angry is that Season 4 started off so well (I adored "Alone"), so I ended up really disappointed. And, um...I really can't remember much of the return arc (so it must not have been very memorable), so I can't comment on that.

4) I think my dislike of the father backstory stems from my tendency to watch too much TV - just about every crime or medical drama out there has at least one character with an abusive parent, usually more, and I'm sick of seeing it. If I saw it in isolation, I'd probably like it a lot better. And while I figure there had to be some explanation for House's behavior, I much preferred it when the explanation was implied rather than explicit.

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