posted by [identity profile] elyssadc.livejournal.com at 05:13am on 01/04/2008
Oh, how I love picspam. And picspam with witty captioning?! Fucking CATNIP, man. Sarah Jane is such a delight.

This was Very Very Tragic and I get all wibbly inside just thinking about it.

Despite Two being my favorite Doctor, and having watched ever other one of his serials, I can't even bring myself to watch War Games because even thinking about those bastard time lords stealing Jamie away and then killing Two...I can't handle it. It's just too horrible.

Now that we’ve finished the background, the next post shall be All About Sarah Jane and her Exciting Adventures in Time and Space!

Yay! I can't wait!
 
posted by [identity profile] stunt-muppet.livejournal.com at 05:56am on 01/04/2008
It's just as addicting actually putting them together. XD I just keep finding more and more images that I want to use and more things I want to say...

Deep Dark Secret: I still can't make it all the way through War Games. I've tried. Really I have. And I can get through most of it. But I just can't watch the end. I'm not emotionally prepared for that.

I'm glad you enjoyed the spamming! :D
 
posted by [identity profile] elyssadc.livejournal.com at 06:07am on 01/04/2008
Deep Dark Secret: I still can't make it all the way through War Games.

You have NO IDEA how happy it makes me to hear you say that. I thought I was just being crazy(er than usual). Does this mean the rest of the serial is enjoyable without watching the gutwrenching, souldestroying ending? Because I've heard the story itself is really good.
 
posted by [identity profile] stunt-muppet.livejournal.com at 06:30am on 01/04/2008
Yes, yes it is. The story's just so tense and so well-put-together that you barely even notice how long it is. And the War Chief makes an excellent villain.

I just...can't do those last few scenes. And I'm glad I'm not the only one.
 
posted by [identity profile] airie-fairy.livejournal.com at 08:38am on 01/04/2008
I found the War Chief pretty commonplace -- though him in relation to the Doctor was great -- but the War Lord? SO FUCKING CREEPY. The giant eyes magnified by the glasses and the exceedingly delicate, innocent voice...
 
posted by [identity profile] stunt-muppet.livejournal.com at 09:15pm on 01/04/2008
Really? I was rather fond of him. Maybe it's because I could totally buy him as an AU pre-Delgado Master that the Doctor just doesn't remember (because of the memory wipe and suchlike). Oh, and I adored the conversation between him and the Doctor, and the bit where he starts begging the Doctor not to call the Time Lords.

That said, however, YAY WAR LORD. I don't know how I forgot to mention him. He's so perfectly innocuous-looking, which of course makes him even creepier...
 
posted by [identity profile] rhia-starsong.livejournal.com at 03:17pm on 01/04/2008
::nodnod:: I am the same way; usually I am somewhat masochistic in my fannish habits, but this...this is just too much. btw, I *adore* your icon!
 
posted by [identity profile] elyssadc.livejournal.com at 04:04pm on 01/04/2008
usually I am somewhat masochistic in my fannish habits, but this...this is just too much.

Same here! I love watching my favorite characters get pianos dropped on them (as my beloved [livejournal.com profile] janissa11 always says) but character death is too much for me. Always. And that's really what this is in a way that none of the other regenerations are for me. Two is murdered. By his own people. Right after they steal his husband and wipe said husband's memories of their undying love from his mind (that's MY canon, damn it) and it's tragic in a way that even Nine's regeneration wasn't (though I still can't even think about that one without crying). Ugh. Oh, Two. How I love you.
 
posted by [identity profile] rhia-starsong.livejournal.com at 04:27pm on 01/04/2008
Exactly! that's MY canon, damn it

Oh, we all know that Two and Jamie are completely married, it's what makes this all the more tragic. Not only did they murder Two in fact, they essentially murdered Jamie, if you take the end of The War Games as strict canon. ::shudders:: No other regeneration can really match Two's for sheer tragedy and Jamie is part of that tragedy.
 
posted by [identity profile] elyssadc.livejournal.com at 05:01pm on 01/04/2008
No other regeneration can really match Two's for sheer tragedy and Jamie is part of that tragedy.

I just saw that someone else posted that Two died howling in agony? I think I'm going to be sick. Why must you do this to me, show? Why show, WHY?!?!?!
 
posted by [identity profile] airie-fairy.livejournal.com at 06:56pm on 01/04/2008
See, I think Jamie made it out of that battle, due to having seen nothing happen and therefore nothing must've happened AHEM, and also he was just so fucking spirited as soon as he made it back there that it screams with life. AHEM, dudes.

The two regenerations that hurt the most -- not that the others don't, One, Three, and Seven's are particularly hard to watch -- are Two's at the end of War Games and Five's at the end of Caves. Because in both cases, there's just so much paaaaaaaaiiiiin. Five is crippled and dizzy and drags himself across a damn desert and collapses looking and sounding a complete tortured mess -- emotionally as well...yeah, and it was very hard. DAMN YOU, SHOW.
 
posted by [identity profile] rhia-starsong.livejournal.com at 07:43pm on 01/04/2008
ohhh, Five, I haven't seen Five yet, but I should be getting one of his serials in from Amazon in a day or two!

Oh, show, why must you feed my masochistic tendencies?!

btw, Jamie totally makes it out of Culloden. I don't know how, but HE DOES NOT DIE THERE.
 
posted by [identity profile] stunt-muppet.livejournal.com at 09:24pm on 01/04/2008
See, I kept putting off Caves of Androzani, even though it was supposedly the best of Five's run, because it just didn't seem fair for my introduction to Five to be his last serial. XD

That said, it outright startled me how much abuse Five takes in Caves. I mean, I knew what happened and everything, but by the end I half-expected him to collapse and die anyway (before he was supposed to, I mean). That said, I think the Seven-to-Eight regeneration might just edge Five-to-Six out. At least Five got to save Peri before he died, thus bringing a tiny bit of dramatic purpose to his death; Seven dies for absolutely no reason. It's so meaningless. And watching Seven struggle against the anaesthesia just makes it worse.
 
posted by [identity profile] airie-fairy.livejournal.com at 10:14pm on 01/04/2008
I haven't seen the movie, but I saw the regeneration sequence from it, and all the twisting flesh looked so PAINFUL I almost cried.

Yeah, the thing is, Five's regeneration bit is so much more than the damage he sustains from the spectrox. There's also Resurrection and Planet of Fire before it, and so that's three in a row of A FUCKING LOT OF EMOTIONAL DAMAGE and the snapping of mental states, oh dear. So I'd have totally expected him to just give up on life even if the episode wasn't supposed to end that way.

(I watched all out of order. Planet of Fire, The Five Doctors, Resurrection, Visitation, and then the rest, ending on Caves. I find it a bit remarkable that the last Five I saw actually was his last, given my creative viewing habits.)
 
posted by [identity profile] stunt-muppet.livejournal.com at 07:22pm on 04/04/2008
I can't truthfully say I've "seen" the movie, since I fast-forwarded through anything Sylvester McCoy or Paul McGann weren't in, but yeah. Two and Five's regenerations were sad, but Seven's, for me, was just scary. Being held down and drugged on an operating table, knowing he's going to die if he can't stop them? *shudder*

My viewing habits are similarly creative, in that I'm still making my way through Ressurection and haven't yet seen Planet of Fire. The Five Doctors was my first; after that came Kinda, Castrovalva, Snakedance, Mawdryn Undead, Caves of Androzani, and, uh...I wanna say Time-Flight? I think it was Time-Flight. So, yeah. I've still got a ways to go.

So, yes. I'm not surprised to learn that Five's regeneration is a lot more powerful when watched in context, especially since Ressurection is shaping up to be quite traumatic for him.

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