posted by [identity profile] rainbowstevie.livejournal.com at 04:37am on 31/10/2007
Holy HECK that is a lot of meta. But a lot of very intriguing meta which is as much fun to read as the story itself.

I'm still grappling with the idea of Horatio being from NY at all, because I got very invested in the original site biography of him growing up in the turbulent culture of 60's Miami. But I'll move past that.

On his age - even though show canon usually trumps site canon, I've never been particularly invested in that quote of Calleigh's. It seemed written in as nothing more than a line of snappy dialogue, and anyway, the 1960's birthdate's stood since the origin of the series, so if that detail hasn't changed, the episode was clearly wrong. Ignore it.

On Julia - much as I would like to erase the idea of Kyle from my brain entirely, I'm also intrigued by your ideas of him adopting not only a different name but a different personality (or, like you said, at least altering his a little). His "it was serious for me" explanation WAS kind of boring, and I think - or at least could be easily convinced - that it makes more sense for him not to have been like that.

I'm very much in agreement with Julia being someone he met while off the clock. I don't think I find the idea of her being a coworker plausible at all - surely someone like that would have the resources to find the father of her child? Either on her own or by pulling strings/calling on connections?

Horatio’s relationships with women, even non-romantic relationships, tend to echo (in a totally not creepy way I swear to you) the relationship he was forced into with his mother – that is, almost, but not quite, taking the place of the father as the confidante, the emotional support, and the structural center of the family.
LOL on the "totally not creepy." I guess I'll believe you THIS time... ;)
Otherwise, that is a thoroughly amazing observation and needs to not get lost in an LJ entry. There has got to be a way of articulating that in fic. Same for the thoughts on his relationship with Yelina, rendering her dependent, because somehow in all my years of yelling at him, I never quite made the final connection to power imbalance. You could actually go into kind of dark places with that observation. I mean, not disturbingly dark, but casting Horatio in a less saintly than shadowy light. What were talking about again?

Julia. Right. As to the idea of an intimate scene, I say go for it. I'm intrigued by "slightly disturbing tone," and would love to see you reconcile another side of Horatio. I'm sure it can be done believably. Especially in a PG-13 boundary.

Finally, given the ending you've envisioned, if you do all of the above and still manage to explain how "it was serious," you are expressly forbidden from slapping an AU tag on this baby, because it shall be hailed as a canon companion. By me. Who holds little to no sway in the fandom, but...

P.S. What do you mean, Peter's in two chapters? I don't even think I know who that is. Have you been updating without my knowledge?
...apparently you have. OK, I don't know why you were not previously on my author alerts, but I'm correcting that right now.
 
posted by [identity profile] stunt-muppet.livejournal.com at 05:25pm on 31/10/2007
Replying in some sort of order now:

You know, it might have been more interesting if he had been from Miami, just because there are so few TV cops I can think of who aren't from or currently living in New York. XD Not to mention I know people who actually lived in Miami in the 60s and 70s, and so would have had to do much less research. *shrug* Of course, New York was quite turbulent in its own way during that era. So I'm told. Can't quite be certain because I wasn't, you know, there.

Ignoring right away, ma'am. *salutes* Was going to anyway, since it's the one inconsistency in the whole age/timeline issue, and can if necessary be written off as a joke.

See, I just felt I had to emphasize the non-creepiness because a few rewrites ago that plot point did end up going to an extremely icky place. Thankfully, I managed to slap some sense into Muse and ask her what the hell she thought she was doing before she did any permanent damage.

And much though I want to work the Horatio/Yelina dynamic into the fic, I'm not quite sure how I'd do that without overlapping into the canon-verse. I've a few ideas involving, say, a previous affair of Raymond's that Horatio never told her about, but even then I think that might occur too early in Horatio and Yelina's 'relationship' for that power imbalance to have really set in.

Then again, I suppose I could write another piece set within show canon and just label it as Little-Brothers-verse compliant...

As for his mom, I think I know how to work that in; there are a few scenes in Horatio's teenage years that play that relationship up, including one where he addresses his mother by her first name to calm her down (unfortunately, that's also where the first version started to go to an uncomfortable place). That shouldn't be too hard to include.

Regarding the AU tag, I'll have to see how the final version of that chapter turns out. I probably won't be working on it for a while (Dark!Horatio can't come out of nowhere; I kind of have to build up to his appearance), so hopefully I'll have some time to tweak and revise and tinker before I make that decision, but it really depends on how the ending goes, and how much speculation I'm willing to leave to the readers. I would really, really not like to do it, though. *hopes*

Erm...perhaps I should have phrased that better. In the story as I've organized it so far, Peter will only appear in two chapters. He hasn't actually shown up yet, I've just obsessively plotted out what's going to happen in which chapter ahead of time. XD And I've written bits and pieces for most of the chapters, so I've written enough of Peter Creedy to like him. So no, you didn't miss anything.

Must leave for class now, so I shall hopefully reply to the rest later...

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