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1. R.I.P., George Carlin.

2. Now, a meme, taken from [personal profile] nentari and [personal profile] biichan:
When you see this post, quote from Doctor Who on your LJ.

"That is the dematerializing control. And that, over yonder, is the horizontal hold. Up there is the scanner, those are the doors, that is a chair with a panda on it. Sheer poetry, dear boy! Now please stop bothering me."
-The First Doctor

The First Doctor really did have the most quotable lines. Which makes sense, given that it was his era that defined the rest of the series.

3. I haven't yet completely caught up with Season 4 of New Who, but all those tempting spoiler cuts meant I had to go out of sequence and watch Turn Left. And, well, some things I liked, some things I didn't, and I'm sure I'll go into this in more detail later, but I do have one vaguely-spoilery thought (with a big blank space after it for the spoilerphobic):

NEEDS MOAR EYEPATCH!BRIGADIER.

Come on, New Who. How am I supposed to take an Alternate Universe of the Fascists seriously if it hasn't got eyepatch!Brig in it?
















4.
On a tangentially related note, something I noticed during my rewatch of The Tenth Planet (spoilery up to Robot):

I forget who he's trying to encourage when he says it, but while he's trying to get everyone to fight back against the Cybermen and stand up to the commander of the Antarctic base, Ben calls out "C'mon! While there's life, there's hope!"

Which, of course, was the Third Doctor's last line before he died in Planet of the Spiders, though strictly speaking he didn't make it all the way to the end of the sentence.

Aside from the fact that I can't remember if the Doctor was even there to hear that line when Ben said it, I find the use of the phrase in that context interesting, especially given that the Doctor spent much of The Tenth Planet ill and dying.

Perhaps the line's meant to link the One-to-Two and Three-to-Four regenerations together after the trauma of the Doctor's forced regeneration from Two to Three; a kind of signal that things are as they should be again, that the Doctor's died for a purpose and surrounded by his friends, as opposed to the meaningless and lonely death he suffered at the end of The War Games.

Or, alternately, perhaps it's a reference to how Three's character arc almost echoed the First Doctor's: Both One and Three started out as very alien characters, aware of their separateness from and not particularly sympathetic to humanity. Both, at the beginning, emphasized their exile (One's assurance in An Unearthly Child that he and Susan will get back to Gallifrey and pretty much the entirety of Season 7, especially the "stranger in a foreign land" line in Inferno). Both, by the end of their run, came to define themselves as wanderers and adventurers rather than exiles, and came to find friendship in humanity rather than relations of necessity.

One could argue that The War Games might be a more painful re-enactment of the First Doctor's exile from Gallifrey in the first place, and as such the Third Doctor must go through the same transformative experiences as the First did in order to become 'the Doctor' as he would define himself in his later regenerations (i.e. Four's "walking in eternity", Seven's "homeless wanderer...his days like crazy paving", Two's "professor of a far wider academy").

But. But there's one difference, and I think it's an important difference. When One nears the end of his life, he retreats back to the TARDIS, almost locking Ben and Polly out when he does. When Three nears the end of his life, he returns to Earth (specifically to UNIT HQ) and chooses to die with the Brigadier and Sarah Jane present rather than alone. One could take that simply as an aversion reaction to Two's solitary death in The War Games, but there is also the most interesting and problematic line: the Doctor tells Sarah Jane that the TARDIS "brought [him] home".

I'm fairly certain that "home", here, is not referring to Earth; it'd be interesting if it did, but given that the Doctor never does that again, I don't think it could. Rather, I think it's referring to the humans he knows and trusts, his companions (Sarah and the Brigadier in this case). They, not a particular planet, are how he defines his "home", his default.

And despite the parallels between One and Three, I think that line establishes the critical difference in their respective character arcs. At the end of his life, One was still very alien; we got the sense that he'd occasionally prefer to travel alone, and that while he enjoyed his companion's company he didn't think he needed them, even when he did*. During Two's era, the companions began to seem as important to the Doctor as his ship was, to the point where his travels necessarily included at least one companion (Two was, significantly, never companionless, even between serials; One wasn't either, but he would have been after The War Machines had Ben and Polly not snuck on board. Two was never companionless by choice, because of Jamie.). The exile at the end of The War Games hit the reset button as far as that development was concerned, bringing the Doctor back to the self-reliant state that defined himself as foremost a solitary and unique individual. But, in re-living the First Doctor's growth, the Third Doctor completed the process that the First had not. He defines his friends and companions as part of himself - as part of who and what and where he is - rather than thinking himself singular by nature. (Much as ordinary humans do, really.) In a sense, he regains that aspect of his Second identity. He is made human in a way that has nothing to do with his actual species nor his specific intellect, and everything to do with the question of selfhood and what, precisely, the perpetual wanderer calls home.

*By "companions", here, I refer to those who aren't Susan, with whom One's relationship was necessarily different.

My gracious, that got long.

*contemplates cross-posting somewhere but isn't sure where*

5. Get Smart was fairly amusing, thanks mostly to the actors - Steve Carell's impervious deadpan and Alan Arkin's line delivery were particular standouts. Unfortunately, the movie tended to forget that there is a fine line between slapstick comedy and simply inflicting pain on the main character. It wasn't always on the right side of that line.

Also, I am forced to concede that when he's wearing a suit or shirtsleeves I find Dwayne Johnson not only enjoyable as a comedian but rather attractive. Dammit, there goes my credibility.

6. Chapter 2 of Memory still in a bit of a rut that gratuitous freewriting hasn't broken. But at least I've got plenty of other projects lined up as distractions.

Back to work.
Mood:: 'busy' busy
location: werkin'
There are 17 comments on this entry. (Reply.)
 
posted by [identity profile] gorengal.livejournal.com at 04:12pm on 23/06/2008
I just watched Turn Left this morning. I love Donna, so I loved this episode. :D That's all I'll say out of respect for the rest of your flist.
 
posted by [identity profile] stunt-muppet.livejournal.com at 04:36pm on 23/06/2008
Oh, Donna. Catherine Tate made this episode for me. But then again, I'm pretty sure I could watch her paint her house for fourty-five minutes and still be fascinated, so...yeah.
 
posted by [identity profile] airie-fairy.livejournal.com at 04:42pm on 23/06/2008
Oh, One. XD

You're so right about the eyepatch!Brig. I think it was an alternate timeline within the same universe rather than a whole different universe (isn't it awesome how many different details there are to this stuff?!), but nonetheless.

I merely love Ben for saying that. *eagerly awaits Ben&Polly love post*

Also, you said "Three's arc" and now I have to ramble about the awesome of Three's arc. He starts off all tightly wound, for one thing. And in The Silurians GREATEST STORY EVARRR we see a glimpse into the dark side where he almost ruins himself out of an obsessive urge for something possibly unattainable. And then there's the way the Metebelis travels and crystal are set up a season earlier and come to fruition at the end; at which same end is his realization that he needs to stop being quite so controlling of himself and his environment and facing fear is more important than living cloistered and stuff. Hence, FOUR, with this newly found tendency to throw himself with reckless glee into anything and everything, sometimes all at the same time (until he, uh, overextends himself and gets so very, very tired that he turns into Five and starts to slowly crack up...).

Also, Three's last words are beautiful, especially for the non-finishing of the sentence. The non-finishing is so LOADED, it was BRILLIANT. /random tangents off your point
 
posted by [identity profile] stunt-muppet.livejournal.com at 05:15pm on 23/06/2008
I think it was an alternate timeline within the same universe rather than a whole different universe (isn't it awesome how many different details there are to this stuff?!), but nonetheless.

Wait, but I thought the Inferno-verse was an alternate timeline as well? *shrug* But still. It was fulla Fascists and thus needed Nick Courtney with an eyepatch to MENACE our intrepid heroine!

eagerly awaits Ben&Polly love post

I know, I know - it's part of the huge list of things I have to do, and the picspam part of it has tried to kill my computer a couple of times so that's gummed up the works a bit. But it really will be up soon!

GREATEST STORY EVARRR

OMG YES IT IS. I love The Silurians for exactly that reason, actually - it's easy to forget just how dark and different Three could be, but The Silurians handles it just beautifully.

(The really funny thing is that, up until I really got into the show, I never heard Three referred to as dark or subtly angsty or anything. I heard a lot about the James Bond frippery (which I like, don't get me wrong), but not until I started watching for myself did I start to see the intensity and melancholy buried underneath all that. It's like Stealth Time Lord Emo.)

I think that's one of the things I like so much about Three - he's got a very clearly defined, very recognizable character arc, and it's ultimately such an uplifting one, even when he dies. Most of the other Doctors have character arcs, but...well, frankly, a lot of theirs are depressing. XD (see: Four.)
 
posted by [identity profile] airie-fairy.livejournal.com at 07:16pm on 23/06/2008
I believe Inferno was full-on parallel universe. But seriously, eyepatch!Brig is requisite.

My resident Holy Crap Angst Doctor is Five (also, Nine, which is done so exquisitely, but with Nine it's more available whereas Five looks all fluffy), but that part near the end of The Silurians where he starts going a bit manic and talks about how he's going to go back and talk to the Silurians and make them see sense because there's so much to be learned from them and by god they have to listen and I was like "OMG REMEMBER THAT SCIENTIST WHOSE DELUSIONS OF GRANDEUR GOT HIM MURDERED EARLIER IN THIS VERY SAME STORY?!" And it's Three's second outing, so from very early on, you're aware of his underlying streak of excess and folly, right up until he gets himself killed for it.
 
posted by [identity profile] stunt-muppet.livejournal.com at 01:40pm on 24/06/2008
My resident Holy Crap Angst Doctor is Five (also, Nine, which is done so exquisitely, but with Nine it's more available whereas Five looks all fluffy)

I know the feeling. I kind of expected angst from Nine, what with the leather jacket and the buzz cut and everything, but Five? Five was blond. And wearing beige. The intensity in Resurrection of the Daleks came as a total surprise.

I don't know if I saw it as excess so much as willfull stubbornness - the idea that he knows what's best and he's not to be disuaded from it - but that's an interesting point you make. Obviously, another rewatch of The Silurians is in order. :D
 
posted by [identity profile] glock35gal.livejournal.com at 05:34pm on 23/06/2008
I was really glad to see your comments on "Get Smart," because I kind of wondered if they took things a little too far.

Dwayne Johnson is a great guy in addition to being *smokin' hot*! I've heard nothing but good things about his personality and work ethic on movie shoots. It's always refreshing when someone so talented is also a cool human being.
 
posted by [identity profile] stunt-muppet.livejournal.com at 05:47pm on 23/06/2008
They do, on occasion. It'd still be worth a matinee, I think, just because the actors all do such a good job, but there are a few sequences (like the one in the airplane bathroom - you'll know it's coming) that made me wince more than laugh.

It's always refreshing when someone so talented is also a cool human being.

Yes it is! It's a nice break from all the horror stories of diva-dom to hear about someone who's normal, let alone actually nice. But he does seem to have fun with his roles, no matter what he's doing, so that's a good sign.
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posted by [identity profile] srevans.livejournal.com at 06:37pm on 23/06/2008
Haven't watched 411 yet and am super spoiler-averse. My plan was to wait until all three end-of-season episodes were out and then watch them all in one big binge - but I'm getting some reports that this is only a two-part season finale, not a three? Wasn't able to verify for sure if this is true without running across spoilers, so if you could let me know, ♥.
 
posted by [identity profile] airie-fairy.livejournal.com at 07:17pm on 23/06/2008
It's 3 parts like last year's was - 411 is set-up, and 12 and 13 are the two-part "coming to a head of things."
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posted by [identity profile] srevans.livejournal.com at 07:19pm on 23/06/2008
You're very kind. :)
 
posted by [identity profile] airie-fairy.livejournal.com at 01:38am on 24/06/2008
No problem! =D
 
posted by [identity profile] stunt-muppet.livejournal.com at 07:25pm on 23/06/2008
What [livejournal.com profile] airie_fairy said - 411 was the set-up for the two-part grand finale of 412 and 413.

(Sorry for the late reply - was on coffee break.)
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posted by [identity profile] srevans.livejournal.com at 07:28pm on 23/06/2008
Heh, so, you unchained yourself from LJ for a few minutes at the office to go on a coffee break? HUSSY, I FORGIVE THEE NOT. :D
 
posted by [identity profile] stunt-muppet.livejournal.com at 07:35pm on 23/06/2008
But but how would I LJ at all without my caffeine? YOU MAKE SUCH UNREASONABLE DEMANDS.
 
posted by [identity profile] livii.livejournal.com at 01:02am on 24/06/2008
#4 is a lovely piece of meta, hon. Also, it made me almost squeal out loud because, OH, BEN, ILU. "The Tenth Planet" might be one of my favourite serials, especially for Ben and Polly taking over and saving the day, and Ben's decency and pragmatism and caring. Oh, I love him so.

::provides you with your quota of eyepatch!Brig::
 
posted by [identity profile] stunt-muppet.livejournal.com at 01:52pm on 24/06/2008
The Tenth Planet is excellent and I love it lots. It's so tense and well-plotted, it really makes use of the confined space, and Ben's sadface when he has to kill one of the Cybermen is what made me fall in love with him to begin with. And I can't imagine what it must have been like to see this episode for the first time and watch the main character suddenly drop dead at the end.

Also, the Cybermen v.1.0 are way creepier than I thought they'd be. The costumes looked a little cheap at first, but then they twist their necks and let their mouths gape open and...brrr.

::provides you with your quota of eyepatch!Brig::

Aaaw, look at him, all small and grumpy and icon-sized.

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