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posted by [personal profile] stunt_muppet at 01:22pm on 18/02/2008 under ,
So, you remember I was telling you about the obscene amount of time I wasted on that TV Tropes wiki?

Turns out that one section - my personal favorite - is devoted entirely to Nightmare Fuel, defined by the Tropers as "elements in a kiddie series or cartoon which were meant to either amuse, entertain, or be only slightly scary to its young audience, but which -- in execution -- are so trauma-inducing that they may cause even adults to void themselves in terror."

I remember quite a few of these moments from my own childhood, so naturally I gave the section a browse. Whereupon I found, to my extreme gratification, that I was far from alone in being horribly traumatized as a child by both Ferngully and The Brave Little Toaster, to the point where I tearfully begged my parents not to send our old minivan to the junkyard because no car deserved to be sent to that hellish hopeless wasteland at the mercy of a sadistic crushing machine.

(And that's not even getting into the giant murderous clown in Toaster's dream. Who though it was a good idea to put a giant murderous clown in a kid's movie? Because they were WRONG.)

Other Nightmare Fuel that rang true for me: While I'm too young to remember it distinctly, my parents informed me that both The Little Mermaid's Giant Ursula and Ratigan's cat enforcer in The Great Mouse Detective were sufficient to send my four-year-old self diving behind the couch. Courage the Cowardly Dog retained its ability to terrify me well into my preteen years, which was not helped by the fact that my stronger-stomached brother inexplicably loved it. We're Back! A Dinosaur Story, which I had successfully purged from my mind until I read that article, had exactly the disturbing and horrible ending the wiki describes, which scared the daylights out of me for a long time. And then, of course, there's Clayface from Batman: The Animated Series; I was twelve or so when that series came along, officially too old to be scared by cartoons, and then they unleashed THAT THING on my impressionable imagination. I'm still sort of scared of him.

How about you all? Anything on the list look familiar? Anybody else traumatized by kids' movies or cartoons in a way their creators most likely did not intend? Discuss!
Mood:: 'amused' amused
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posted by [identity profile] rainbowstevie.livejournal.com at 08:26pm on 18/02/2008
Oh-oh-oh, I've got one: Fantasia. Look, when you've got Mickey dancing around in wizard garb, it's clearly going to appeal to kids. And it's all pretty good, even with the vaguely-traumatizing dinosaur segment, and then...suddenly there are DEMONS AND HELLFIRE. WHICH IS SO NOT FOR KIDS. "Night on Bald Mountain" was so terrifying that after the first traumatic experience, I couldn't bring myself to go past the middle of the hippo/alligator dance until my late teen years. And it still isn't something I want to see on a dark night by myself.

Also, word on Brave Little Toaster.
 
posted by [identity profile] stunt-muppet.livejournal.com at 05:17am on 19/02/2008
Oooh, I know what you mean. "Night on Bald Mountain" was awfully intense considering what came before it, and that cozy little "Ave Maria" at the end did not solve anything. We fast-forwarded through that a lot in my house.

But then, I think I was a bit more traumatized by the dinosaur sequence; those dinos were quite lifelike to my young eyes. :(
 
posted by [identity profile] rhia-starsong.livejournal.com at 02:07am on 19/02/2008
Hmm, I don't remember being traumatised by Ferngully, but I do remember having to leave the theatre during Beauty and the Beast when it got to the part with the wolves, and a bunch of us being terrified by Hocus Pocus in first grade at my friend's birthday party. Honestly, her mom had to put on Little Orphan Annie to get us to sleep.

Of course, watching these movies again as an adult, they're either banal or hysterical. I think I was not easily traumatised by cartoons, especially as I really loved The Little Mermaid, and Ursula singing "You Poor Unfortunate Soul" still ranks as one of my treasured childhood memories.
 
posted by [identity profile] stunt-muppet.livejournal.com at 05:22am on 19/02/2008
Really? For some reason, the wolves never bothered me at all. Because not being scared of wolves but being scared of singing black sludge makes PERFECT SENSE. I didn't see Hocus Pocus until I was around fourteen, so by that point I could laugh at it rather than be frightened by it. Although the squished cat was a little freaky.

I loved The Little Mermaid too, and Ursula herself didn't bother me. It was the gigantic deep-voiced storm-goddess thing she became at the end of the movie that freaked me out. (Also, "Poor Unfortunate Soul" really is the best song in the entire movie. Debatably second to "Les Poissons". I have both on my iPod.)
 
posted by [identity profile] rhia-starsong.livejournal.com at 01:35pm on 19/02/2008
EEEEE!!!! Must. Have. Songs! Pwees?

Ok, now that that's out of the way. Yeah, it was totally the squished cat that got me, too.
 
posted by [identity profile] stunt-muppet.livejournal.com at 07:36pm on 19/02/2008
Both are on their way. They're attached to an e-mail in your school account, so they should get through okay.
 
posted by [identity profile] rhia-starsong.livejournal.com at 02:40am on 19/02/2008
Huh. I checked out the first two pages of the wiki, and I must not have been a literal-minded child, because I swear I was never traumatised (or really mildly creeped out) by any of that stuff.

Of course, I don't think I made it out of the animated stuff, so maybe that's not a fair assessment. I think in general, I was very able to separate animated=not real from live-action=real, and was therefore only really ever scared by live-action stuff.
 
posted by [identity profile] stunt-muppet.livejournal.com at 05:26am on 19/02/2008
But wouldn't being literal-minded keep you from being scared? Either way, I rather envy you - that sort of separation's a good skill to have at a young age. ;)

There's a section on live-action TV, movies, and video games, so those are covered too. (May I tempt you with Are You Afraid of the Dark/)

 
posted by [identity profile] rhia-starsong.livejournal.com at 01:45pm on 19/02/2008
Yus, that show was the one thing on Nick that I could never watch without nightmares.

I think being literal-minded tends to make a child take everything they see literally--so if someone gets run over in a cartoon and turned into a flapjack, then of course it could happen to you! I was never one of those kids.
 
posted by [identity profile] stunt-muppet.livejournal.com at 07:45pm on 19/02/2008
Hmm. Good point. Although avoiding getting run over is also a useful life skill in and of itself. :)
 
posted by [identity profile] sterling-sky.livejournal.com at 02:54am on 19/02/2008
Oh God - Brave Little Toaster and We're Back! So terrifying, although I adored Toaster. Bambi's mom getting shot doesn't rank? Also, in Oliver and Company, the scene on the bridge? So scary. I also (still) have a horrific, irrational, deep seated fear of car washes with brushes, because SOMEONE (why hello thar, big brother) thought it was funny to tell me that they were Ursula's tentacles. Even though I love Poor Unfortunate Souls now, and love to sing it, I was horrified by it as a kid. So yeah. Word.
 
posted by [identity profile] stunt-muppet.livejournal.com at 05:30am on 19/02/2008
I...guess I must have adored Toaster too, since I kept on watching it despite my terror. I guess. Maybe.

And I couldn've sworn that both Bambi and Oliver were on that list, but as Bambi's mom's death went completely over my head and I've never actually seen Oliver and Company (shame!) I wasn't too attentive to those bits.

I think massive tentacles are just troubling in general - Ursula inspired fear because she was the only source we wee ones had of giant threatening tentacly things.
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posted by [identity profile] srevans.livejournal.com at 05:06am on 19/02/2008
All cartoons used to creep me the fuck out. It is really only in the last five years I've been able to stomach them, honestly.

Some thoughts I've come up with about why: the hideous, grotesque animation style all NickToons had in the early nineties (see Ren & Stimpy, Aagh Real Monsters etc). A particular Merrie Melodies short about a baby car getting into an accident and dying and having his mother and father car grieve over him. The fact that I was even more bizarrely uptight as a little kid than I am now-- didn't like sugary cereals, had to keep all my toys exactly in order (and I do mean exactly in order; there were family trees and marriage records; there was genuine distress when their original tags or hand-made nametags fell off).

I wasn't actually going to comment on this post because the idea of whining about past distressing TV images sounded somewhat lame to me. Then I started reading the TV Tropes articles and remembered how bizarre and awful TV really seemed to me back then.
 
posted by [identity profile] stunt-muppet.livejournal.com at 05:38am on 19/02/2008
Understandable - Aagh Real Monsters and Ren & Stimpy were odd, and I cannot fathom the Facebook population's nostalgia for them.

And the post was meant in fun, really - I highly doubt most people suffered any lasting psychological damage from a kid's movie, and I'm sure being distressed builds character or something. Just seemed an entertaining group whine. ;)
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posted by [identity profile] srevans.livejournal.com at 06:30am on 19/02/2008
No definitely; it's good group participation.

Also go to bed.
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posted by [identity profile] srevans.livejournal.com at 06:18pm on 19/02/2008
Actually, another also: are you still flirting with Sweeney? cos if so there's a DVD full of various older-than-Depp productions I ought to send you.

Or New Who; I could send you some New Who! Care package, what do you want?
 
posted by [identity profile] stunt-muppet.livejournal.com at 06:52am on 23/02/2008
Why, how kind of you! Any form of pre-Depp Sweeney Todd would be much appreciated; thanks so much! Yay, expanding my musical knowedge.
 
posted by [identity profile] xarisbanana.livejournal.com at 04:21am on 21/02/2008
Do you remember The Secret of NIMH??? Now that was scary. ><
 
posted by [identity profile] stunt-muppet.livejournal.com at 03:42am on 22/02/2008
...you know, I don't think I ever actually saw that. I just remember that it involved mice for some reason. :D

But judging by its entry here, I'll take your word for it.

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