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Re: And a reply, part one.
Jo's relationship to the Doctor seems to be a more emotionally-based one, whereas Liz's was more intellectual, and I think that shift changes the way the Doctor relates to the rest of the characters as well.
Yes - and it's easiest to see this shift with the way the Doctor reacts to Sarah right from the start. He was... well, not quite outright antagonistic towards Jo, mostly because she was so doggedly cheerful about everything, but he was definitely more on the aloof/distracted side in "Terror of the Autons", whereas in "The Time Warrior" he seemed amused, actually interested in Sarah. And then, right away, he was willing to accept Sarah as a companion and a friend, whereas he kept pushing Jo away for most of the eighth series. Something definitely took place while Jo was around - it's a transformation I sort of missed out on by watching everything so terribly out of order. Once my Great Who (Re)watch makes its way to the Pertwee era (which, at this rate, will probably be sometime in February!), I might have more coherent thoughts on the subject.
(I think I should state that The Mind of Evil, once I finally finished it, made me squee like crazy.)
The Mind of Evil is surely one of the most squeeworthy serials out there! I think I may have squeed about it on... on three separate occasions? I need a better tagging system on my LJ, I think, to keep track of this stuff.
who's to say he would even have thought of this new body as "himself", at first?
Ooh, which reminds me! Have you read... now, what was it... Come Back to Tell You All (I Shall Tell You All)? Excellent, excellent story that delves right into that issue. And the ending never fails to make me all wibbly.
Perhaps the fact that Delgado!Master is still within his natural regenerative lifespan, whereas Ainley!Master and all his successors are living in stolen or newly-fabricated bodies, has something to do with it?
Ah, that's a really interesting idea. I think that Four's whole interaction with Crispy!Master in The Deadly Assassin changed their dynamic entirely. But then, I've got this silly little pet theory that Four carries a lot of resentment about what was done to him in his last incarnation, and that extends to rejecting a lot of things that the Third Doctor was all about. Er. What am I trying to say, here?
What I'm trying to say is that I think the interactions between Ainley!Master and the Doctor had as much to do with the Doctor's regeneration as with the Master's. From an in-character perspective, as you say.
And I hadn't noticed (well, registered) the height disparity between Pertwee and Delgado, so further thanks for pointing that out to me.
I checked it out on IMDB, just out of curiosity - Delgado's 5'7-and-a-half", while Pertwee's 6'3". Yikes! I didn't think it was quite that pronounced - they mustn't have been wanting to emphasize that too much. Come to think of it, in a lot of their interactions one or both are sitting down. Or they're running and firing guns and things. One or the other.
More replies to follow, replies to your replies to my replies! :D
Re: And a reply, part one.
Yeah, on reflection, I should probably be watching these in some sort of order, rather than finding one that looks interesting and saying "Hey! I'll wanna watch that one!" But then, I've managed to understand every serial so far with only a quick trip to Wikipedia to refresh some facts, so...um. Yeah. I'll make that decision later. Like once I've burned through the next three on my To-Watch List.
(Why did nobody warn me that this show is ever so addictive?)
I am discovering whole new worlds of Three!fic over the course of this comment thread, and it is bringing me GREAT JOY. *hugs you* You know, I think it may finally be time for me to get a Teaspoon account, so's I can keep this and the other fics what turns up on
Coming right off of "The Mind of Evil", the Four-BBQ!Master interactions almost depressed me. I know that their relationship had to change, and I think you are once again correct - it has a lot to do with the Doctor's regeneration. Why would he want to be reminded that the Master used to be his only reliable tether to a world beyond Earth?
But...but...but I miss the bickering and the sarcasm and the SKIENCE, dammit. :( (I have shamelessly made off with your spelling, by the way. Hope that's all right.)
They are, aren't they. Even in "Axos" they spent a lot of time leaning on the TARDIS console. And then there's that publicity shot where Delgado's substantially in the background, so of course he looks smaller. Hmm.
Come to think of it, only Seven was actually shorter than the Master, wasn't he? Davison and Ainley look about the same height, as do Colin Baker and Ainley, and Tennant and Simm. And Baker the First is just a skyscraper to begin with.
Further commentation on LJ posts and fic to come. :)
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There's no height listed on IMDB for Ainley, so I can't resolve that particular debate, but given that Davison's 6'1", Baker the Second's 6'0", and McCoy's 5'6", I'm betting that Five and Six are about the same height as if not a bit taller than Ainley!Master.
Paul McGann's listed as 5'8"; Eric Roberts is 5'10". So that gives us only two Doctors that have been smaller than their respective Masters.
Why is everyone on this show so taaaaaaaall. < /short-person rant>
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Eenteresting. I'm sure there's detailed meta to be written on that subject!
Why is everyone on this show so taaaaaaaall. < /short-person rant>
The companions! The companions are generally a lot shorter than I thought! (I think?)
I'm precisely the same height as Delgado, which is... not a sentence I'd ever anticipated typing, I've gotta say. Hee.
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even though that caption was applied to McCoy.If nothing else, at least Adric was probably fairly small. :) Zoe too, I think.
(But then, I'm precisely one foot shorter than Colin Baker. Everyone looks tall to me. :D)