posted by
stunt_muppet at 02:23am on 23/05/2011 under big huge crazy au, cartoons, doctor who, things i want to write, transformers, writing
Yay!
Note that since I came up with most of these I've seen other people put forward the same theories, but I arrived at them more or less on my own, so. Yeah. For what that's worth.
1. Doctor Who:
I have actually not seen any of the Season 6 of New Who; I've got them cued up on DVR, but every time I try to watch them someone wants the TV or I've got to go somewhere or Mom comes in and she doesn't like the show, so...yeah. I have sated my appetite by reading spoilers, which is probably ill-advised, but there you are.
Anyway, in light of what said spoilers have told me, plus some semi-joking comments from The Moff, have led to Theory #1:
Rory keeps dying in Series 6 because he got Et By Crack in Series 5 after he had already died.
After all, by getting rid of the crack at the end of Season 5, the Doctor was restoring things that had disappeared into the void in the meanwhile - Amy's parents et al - but Rory would still have been dead in that case. Plus, by pulling the Doctor back into the restored universe by remembering him, Amy was also calling back the previous, cracked universe in which Rory had died.
This leads to a Final Destination-type situation wherein death keeps trying to catch up to Rory, leading to him getting killed or almost-killed over and over again until it sticks or the whole process finally does some damage to the poor guy.
Alternately, the series ends with Amy beating up Death to save her husband. Well, I'd watch it.
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2. Transformers Prime
I will honestly be surprised if people on the larger boards haven't suggested at least the first part of this, but I'm putting it out there anyway:
Rafael is a robot.
Well, he does state that he "doesn't know why" he understands Bumblebee's blips and whirrs, is inexplicably the only human who can, understood computer code at the age of three, and his family doesn't talk to him or interact with him much - which could be discomfort with the fact that, you know, he isn't human and it's kind of an open secret. Not to mention he doesn't die when he gets smacked against a solid steel wall by a struggling, Megatron-possessed Bumblebee; even in Cartoon Physics that would give you a broken bone or at least keep you off your feet for a while.
But then I started wondering as to how they could pull the same plot device in two series in a row, i.e. human kid is really a robot. Perhaps there's a meta plot to be made of this, like if Sari's protoform and Raf's protoform originated from the same source and were deliberately seeded across the multiverse as some sort of larger plot. But I couldn't figure out what that larger plot would be.
And then "Iron Man" came on my iPod shuffle, and I always associate that song with the Cybermen in their Classic Who appearances, and, well, that'd be one way to eliminate organic weakness and mortality in humans, to seed humanity with robotic duplicates until the machine takes over, wouldn't it? Massive meta-crossover GO.
Of course, if there is a metaplot going, it means that I've got to finish that Big Huge Crazy Postwar TFA AU/Fanwankery On The Part of Sari's Origins right quick before it gets Jossed in a whole different direction than it's already going to with Exile. Woe is me.
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3. Generator Rex
Doctor Holiday is Rex's mother.
Why yes, this theory is entirely based on the fact that Holiday and ZAG-RS (who has the voice of Rex's mother) have the same voice actor, and it requires a whole lot of subplots and justification to make it work but I like it anyway.
After all, Doc Holiday? Pretty obviously a pseudonym if we're to accept that the GR universe is meant to parallel our own. And Six only meets her in Providence after Rex appears. And she's one of the only people in "Promises, Promises" that thinks to look for a cure for EVOs instead of killing them all - she'd know if there was a possibility, wouldn't she, given that she worked on the nanites for so long and was perhaps working on a way of shutting them off; perhaps she subconsciously knew about it.
As to why she doesn't recognize Rex? Simple; instead of being connected to the nanites, Rex's memory loss is genetic. His mother had it too. It had been a long time since the last loss when the nanite event happened, long enough for her to have had a long time with her sons. Or, perhaps, because she knew she had this condition, she was able to put failsafes in place, a database that she enters everything she knows into, for example - or, at least, let her family know about the condition so they could help her get back on track after a memory loss.
And why Cesar hasn't said anything about it? Well, "Written in Sand" did seem to imply that Cesar isn't what he seems, or has some sort of agenda; perhaps he has ulterior motives for not revealing to Rex the person that's right in front of him.
No explanation for why she's not Argentinian, though. (Or was it his mom that was from Mexico? I don't remember at the moment.) But, hey, it's never stated that she isn't, I guess.
See, this one I could actually make into a fic if I fanwanked it hard enough. Maybe. If it hasn't been done.
Oh, and one other thing: there's a reviewer on TGWTG now called Oancitizen who reviews oddball arthouse cinema like Antichrist, Nine Songs, and Jan Svankmajer's Alice (with the gruesomest, most inappropriate bits censored, so no fear). I don't know if any of you out there have the same disproportionate love for Euroschlocky weirdness, but if you are, well, take a looksee.
And now it's 2 a.m. again so I should go to bed. Curse my late-night habits.
Note that since I came up with most of these I've seen other people put forward the same theories, but I arrived at them more or less on my own, so. Yeah. For what that's worth.
1. Doctor Who:
I have actually not seen any of the Season 6 of New Who; I've got them cued up on DVR, but every time I try to watch them someone wants the TV or I've got to go somewhere or Mom comes in and she doesn't like the show, so...yeah. I have sated my appetite by reading spoilers, which is probably ill-advised, but there you are.
Anyway, in light of what said spoilers have told me, plus some semi-joking comments from The Moff, have led to Theory #1:
Rory keeps dying in Series 6 because he got Et By Crack in Series 5 after he had already died.
After all, by getting rid of the crack at the end of Season 5, the Doctor was restoring things that had disappeared into the void in the meanwhile - Amy's parents et al - but Rory would still have been dead in that case. Plus, by pulling the Doctor back into the restored universe by remembering him, Amy was also calling back the previous, cracked universe in which Rory had died.
This leads to a Final Destination-type situation wherein death keeps trying to catch up to Rory, leading to him getting killed or almost-killed over and over again until it sticks or the whole process finally does some damage to the poor guy.
Alternately, the series ends with Amy beating up Death to save her husband. Well, I'd watch it.
---
2. Transformers Prime
I will honestly be surprised if people on the larger boards haven't suggested at least the first part of this, but I'm putting it out there anyway:
Rafael is a robot.
Well, he does state that he "doesn't know why" he understands Bumblebee's blips and whirrs, is inexplicably the only human who can, understood computer code at the age of three, and his family doesn't talk to him or interact with him much - which could be discomfort with the fact that, you know, he isn't human and it's kind of an open secret. Not to mention he doesn't die when he gets smacked against a solid steel wall by a struggling, Megatron-possessed Bumblebee; even in Cartoon Physics that would give you a broken bone or at least keep you off your feet for a while.
But then I started wondering as to how they could pull the same plot device in two series in a row, i.e. human kid is really a robot. Perhaps there's a meta plot to be made of this, like if Sari's protoform and Raf's protoform originated from the same source and were deliberately seeded across the multiverse as some sort of larger plot. But I couldn't figure out what that larger plot would be.
And then "Iron Man" came on my iPod shuffle, and I always associate that song with the Cybermen in their Classic Who appearances, and, well, that'd be one way to eliminate organic weakness and mortality in humans, to seed humanity with robotic duplicates until the machine takes over, wouldn't it? Massive meta-crossover GO.
Of course, if there is a metaplot going, it means that I've got to finish that Big Huge Crazy Postwar TFA AU/Fanwankery On The Part of Sari's Origins right quick before it gets Jossed in a whole different direction than it's already going to with Exile. Woe is me.
---
3. Generator Rex
Doctor Holiday is Rex's mother.
Why yes, this theory is entirely based on the fact that Holiday and ZAG-RS (who has the voice of Rex's mother) have the same voice actor, and it requires a whole lot of subplots and justification to make it work but I like it anyway.
After all, Doc Holiday? Pretty obviously a pseudonym if we're to accept that the GR universe is meant to parallel our own. And Six only meets her in Providence after Rex appears. And she's one of the only people in "Promises, Promises" that thinks to look for a cure for EVOs instead of killing them all - she'd know if there was a possibility, wouldn't she, given that she worked on the nanites for so long and was perhaps working on a way of shutting them off; perhaps she subconsciously knew about it.
As to why she doesn't recognize Rex? Simple; instead of being connected to the nanites, Rex's memory loss is genetic. His mother had it too. It had been a long time since the last loss when the nanite event happened, long enough for her to have had a long time with her sons. Or, perhaps, because she knew she had this condition, she was able to put failsafes in place, a database that she enters everything she knows into, for example - or, at least, let her family know about the condition so they could help her get back on track after a memory loss.
And why Cesar hasn't said anything about it? Well, "Written in Sand" did seem to imply that Cesar isn't what he seems, or has some sort of agenda; perhaps he has ulterior motives for not revealing to Rex the person that's right in front of him.
No explanation for why she's not Argentinian, though. (Or was it his mom that was from Mexico? I don't remember at the moment.) But, hey, it's never stated that she isn't, I guess.
See, this one I could actually make into a fic if I fanwanked it hard enough. Maybe. If it hasn't been done.
Oh, and one other thing: there's a reviewer on TGWTG now called Oancitizen who reviews oddball arthouse cinema like Antichrist, Nine Songs, and Jan Svankmajer's Alice (with the gruesomest, most inappropriate bits censored, so no fear). I don't know if any of you out there have the same disproportionate love for Euroschlocky weirdness, but if you are, well, take a looksee.
And now it's 2 a.m. again so I should go to bed. Curse my late-night habits.
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Having Holiday as Rex's mother is...kinda creepy, though, IMO. She's not old enough and with Caesar having initially addressed her as "bonita", that really adds to the weirdness factor. (Not to mention Rex's tendency to flirt with her.) Holiday shouldn't really have any memory loss issues, either, given she has an incurable EVO for a sister who it seems she does remember prior to said sister's mutation.
Also, Doc Holiday's original name in the conceptual stages of the series was actually "Doctor Christmas." I don't know why Christmas, but I think they figured "Holiday" was a smoother sounding replacement that mirrored the original choice and put a punny sort of spin on things.
It just seems like kind of a far throw to me, sort of like how fandom wanted to make Noah the son of Doctor Rylander, which turned out to be wrong, since Noah's last name is Nixon.
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Well, okay, like isn't the right word exactly, but one of the reasons I like the theory is because it gives the whole relationship an unsettling and weird vibe. No illusions about how likely it is in canon, but there's enough little inconsistencies that I might like to play around with it in canon with ideas like false memory, conspiracy, et cetera.
Huh, I didn't know that about Holiday's original name! I always assumed it was a purposeful reference to the gunslinger Doc Holiday (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doc_Holiday), hence my assumption that it was a pseudonym that she adopted to reference that figure, but if they were starting out with "Christmas" then that's not what they were originally going for.
I'd also never heard of the theory of Noah being Rylander's son. Is it odd that even if I know it doesn't work in canon I kind of want to roll with it and work out the implications in fic?
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DO WANT.
(I can't remember if you're a Discworld fan, but now I sort of want to see Amy playing poker against the Discworld's Death for Rory's life. Because THAT WOULD BE AWESOME. :D
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I really wish there was about a thousand times more Discworld/Who crossovers than there actually are.
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And I've having a hell of a time getting them all to sleep, too, I can't even tell you.
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(I <3 your crazy theories but thus far S6 is looking to have plenty of its own wackydoodle revelations coming up.... I just hope my trust in The Moff is not misplaced. You're being pretty smart in putting off starting S6, is what I'm saying.)
WOULD YOU BY ANY CHANCE LIKE TO DISCUSS SEASON 5 THO BECAUSE I AM AVAILABLE FOR THAT
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It's just. I don't know about Season 6 thus far. It seems to be so very dramatic, so very OH MY GOD WHAT A TWIST that I'm not feeling it so far. I want to be feeling it, but it just isn't as fun as Season 5 was. And the Twist at the end of The Almost People was really no help.
I WOULD VERY MUCH LIKE TO DISCUSS SEASON 5 AND HOW VERY META IT WAS AND HOW THE OPENER WAS RATHER FANTASTIC AND ALL. WOULD YOU? I WOULD.
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(And though maybe he didn't legally change his name, he has only been referred to as "Rory Pond" since then, and he probably didn't legally take her name only because they didn't remember the Doctor at that point and thus weren't fully sensible.)
I liked the most recent twist in S6 because it made the initial twists (from the two-part opener) make sense. I had an "aha!" moment and was able to enjoy Mr. Moffat's cleverness, whereas before the twist I was mostly living in dread that this was going to be some odious wimmens n babiez plotline. Granted, it might *still* turn into that, but at least I know Moffat planned it all out ahead of time, unlike RTD. ugh bad wolf wtf. You know in the commentary for Parting of the Ways he openly admits he had no idea where that was going until he got to that ep? UGH.
Yeah so I'm not, like, 100% psyched on the S6 arc, but I'm reserving judgment until the finale. I trust Moffat to pull everything together by the end, and I trust him because SEASON FIVE OMG. The finale of Season 5 recalls directly the opener and adds a whole new dimension to several other episodes-- like when the Doctor took an extra moment with Amy in the weeping angels episodes. I absolutely LOVE how he didn't think to do that (or couldn't do it) the first time around. Imagine if he'd just left her with a pat on the head in that scene? Heartbreaking! I cheered watching that the first time around when he "came back," and to have that moment be retconned as him getting a second go at it months later was delicious. It made him a little more flawed, but still just as compassionate. AND PLOT POINT YES YES YES. "REMEMBER WHAT I TOLD YOU WHEN YOU WERE SEVEN EVEN THOUGH I TECHNICALLY HAVEN'T DONE IT YET." And also, in the same vein, he was able to "fix" his mistake from the opener by returning just a few hours later, rather than years, even if Amelia didn't wake up to appreciate it.
And meta, yes yes, a lot of the drama of the scenes with Wee!Amelia hinged on knowing the history of the show. My heart broke in advance when he promised her "five minutes." I was pleading with my computer screen. "No, Doctor! You know you won't show up when you're supposed to!" And, okay, I love Karen Gillan, and the pragmatics of production require an adult actor, but I rly rly wanted Wee!Amelia to be a companion. AUUUUUUUGH WEE!AMELIA, SO HOPEFUL YET WARY AND COMPLEX AND BADASS EVEN WHILST PREPUBESCENT. I've rewatched that ep more than all the others just for his scenes with her. SO CUTE! SO WHIMSICAL! also SWIMMING POOL. How exciting is it that they've brought back the TARDIS' bigness? There's a Four+Leela serial where they go romping through the bowels of the TARDIS, and there's a woodshop and lots of grotty staircases and, ridiculously, brick walls, and I loved it. I Have Theories about how TARDIS' get their interiors (and these theories will be brought to light by Minotaur!Master, yes yes.)
ALSO THE FINALE WAS SO TIMEY-WIMEY AND AWESOME AND CONTAINED THAT UNMISTAKABLE INDIANA JONES FLAVOR AND WAS JUST SO WELL CRAFTED. I really admire Moffat as a writer, and I am incredibly stingy with my writerly admiration. I DON'T MEAN THIS SQUEE LIGHTLY, IS WHAT I'M SAYING.