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Every time I rewatch The Dark Knight I ask myself that. And also why Christopher Nolan is allergic to girls.

So I spent most of yesterday laid up with some sort of stomach flu that my entire family had passed around first. I wish I could say that I spent that day being productive and reading the book I'm supposed to review for my blog, but in truth I mostly just curled up in bed all day and read TV Tropes on my phone. And then called in sick today because my stomach was still putting up less-enthusiastic protests any time I tried to put food in it. But at least...today I maybe got some stuff done? Not very much, admittedly?

I did manage to have two increasingly bizarre dreams wherein first, there were two old barnhouses out on a field outside my college's student union, a white one and a more beat-up black one. The white one had a film class in it on the top floor; the black one hosted a student-run BDSM club, and our first meeting was that night. Except we mostly sat around and talked about what music we were going to play. And also, my high school English teacher was at the meeting. He was also teaching the flim class in the other barn. I even remember the exact dialogue.

Me: ...this is awkward.
Him: Not really.

And then, the second night, I had an even odder dream that somehow involved a crossover between TF: Prime and The Simpsons. And it started with Homer getting in a bathtub that turned him invisible. And he sung a sea shanty. It was strange. 


Also I have been watching a whole bunch of movies! Still not Tangled, much to my disappointment, but lovely lovely M and J treated me to a marathon of Muppet movies for my belated birthday and it reminded me how much I love them. A Muppet Christmas Carol is actually legitimately good! Michael Caine manages to act while surrounded by singing muppets and big chunks of the narration are pulled right from the story and it's all-around great, it should be part of everyone's Christmas plans.

We also ended up watching Muppet Treasure Island, which is equally lovely and has Tim Curry in it, even if he only gets to sing once. It is, however, much funnier now that I'm older and more familiar with the actual story of Treasure Island. Also, it got me listening to Shiver My Timbers over and over again because I'd forgotten how catchy it was. I do believe it might even be composed by Hans Zimmer, he of those other pirate movies.

It also reminded me of how every fandom I'm in desperately needs to have a Pirate AU. Not real pirates, though. Movie pirates. They're much more fun. Oh, of course they do, just imagine how much fun Beatrice the Pirate Queen would be. Or Privateer Ziva. Or the Doctor as a rougish explorer-slash-outlaw who swaps out travelling companions. Or, hey, Transformers in general: ROBOT PIRATES.

Once I am finished with the reams of other fic I am supposed to be writing it is campy pirate AUs all around. I do need my nonsensical id-fic occasionally. And then I will learn how to draw so I can draw everyone in huge feathery hats.

Alternately, I could just write, I don't know, actual PotC fic. Speaking of which, I've decided that the Pirates of the Carribbean universe takes place in the Land of Fiction, from the Doctor Who serial The Mind Robber. Given that it's a place run on storytelling logic where characters and concepts from just about any work of fiction can come to life and wander around freely, PotC's melange of time periods, mythological creatures, and seafaring legends makes perfect sense! I have no idea how I would use these in a fic, though. Mostly it makes crossovers easier without pedantic nerdfaces like myself having to figure out what time period the PotC movies are actually set in.

I keep coming up with these lists of progressively more insane crossovers that I know I will never write because I can't figure out an actual plot for any of them, just an idea. Thus far I've ended up with:

- That one with Maria (from Umineko) and Vector Prime (Transformers) with the latter trying to figure out what the hell she even is, because creating something from nothing just doesn't make sense that's not how the universe works etc.
- The one where Gendo Ikari (Evangelion) is a Sorceror (Umineko) and screws with everyone in the 'verse.
- The one where the Miami of CSI is the inverse of Silent Hill
- That other one where Blitzwing somehow falls into the PotC universe and becomes allies with Pirate King Elizabeth

And the thing i I know there are more and I just don't remember them! I have got to just start writing down whatever comes to mind so I have records of things.

Wow, this entry got rambling really fast. Um, have a meme! 

Pick a character I've written/am likely to know about and I will give and explain the top five ideas/concepts/etc I keep in mind while writing that character that I believe are essential to accurately depicting them.

Two a.m. and I've got work in the morning. Good night, flist.
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posted by [identity profile] biichan.livejournal.com at 07:10am on 23/01/2011
- The one where Gendo Ikari (Evangelion) is a Sorceror (Umineko) and screws with everyone in the 'verse.

THIS IS STRANGELY FEASIBLE EVEN IN CANON.
 
posted by [identity profile] stunt-muppet.livejournal.com at 03:42am on 25/01/2011
You really don't even need to make any changes. Sure he died in the series (maybe, possibly), but that was just his piece on the game board that round!
 
posted by [identity profile] airie-fairy.livejournal.com at 07:25am on 23/01/2011
I think, as exemplified by the lowly bank employee who pulls, what was it, an automatic? Semi-automatic? On Joker, the extreme fucked up state of Gotham is just so much a part of the citizens they probably wouldn't know how to live anywhere else.

As for the girl thing, dude. I don't know. I mean, Barbara was right there. Why go out of the way to establish little boy Gordon when most of the people watching and involved in the making know the little girl you also saw fit to include even though you totally ignored her is Batgirl? I mean, it had to have been worth the homage value, you'd think. I think that bit was the ultimate symbol of the girl issue, the audience staring Barbara Gordon right in the face and it totally being passed over.

Muppet Christmas Carol is legitimately good. And I've always adored the Muppet of Christmas Present. It makes me so happy to see him.
 
posted by [identity profile] airie-fairy.livejournal.com at 07:29am on 23/01/2011
Excuse me, it was a shotgun. A massive fucking shotgun of the kind Sarah Connor uses to take out terminators. Under his desk.
 
posted by [identity profile] stunt-muppet.livejournal.com at 05:23am on 25/01/2011
I think it might have been the bank manager? I always figured that since he worked in a bank that was connected to the mob, he had to be prepared for this kind of thing - his rant about how criminals used to believe in something makes me think that robberies and intergang violence has been on the up. So I guess I didn't extrapolate from him to everyone else in Gotham? But even so, I'd be expecting a few really tough townspeople to keep hanging out there, not for it to be nearly as populated as it seems to be.

I kind of want to think up some explanation a la Uzumaki (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Uzumaki) about how the same thing that's drawing all this evil and harm to Gotham is the same thing that keeps people from leaving, but that's just me putting crossovers into everything.

I thought I even heard them address Gordon's wife as "Barbara", which is even more egregious because it's using the name without anything connected to the character. But what gets me the most is how they apparently "included" Renee Montoya...without ever mentioning her name and reducing her to one of the cops who was sold out to the Joker and the mobs. Burned me right up when I realized that that was supposed to be Renee.

He's my favorite of all the Christmas spirits. He's the only one with a song and he's just so cheerful! I'm glad they used a purpose-built Muppet for him rather than an extant character; not that there weren't Muppets they could have used, but he's just so endearing that I can't imagine him being anyone else.
 
posted by [identity profile] airie-fairy.livejournal.com at 09:07pm on 25/01/2011
I guess. I just loved that guy and love the idea of Gotham citizens being so hardened as to be that kind of prepared. The rest of the world is just not ready for even the innocents of Gotham. Like you suggested, "the same thing that's drawing all this evil and harm to Gotham is the same thing that keeps people from leaving."

Ugh, that sucks two ways. I mean, the lack of name mention means you can pretend it wasn't her or whatever, but then you're still left with the female cop, who played a significant role (even if it wasn't a happy one) not getting a name. Don't half-ass the homages, I mean really. Everybody else is included in attention-gathering ways that make you go "omg yay I get the reference!" or learn something significant about Batman lore if you didn't know it before, there's so reason Renee and Barbara shouldn't be given the same attention.

HE IS SO ADORABLE. It used to make me really sad and scared as a kid when he aged and faded away. :/ I love that they made up a specific one for him, so the personality is all his. But I do kind of wish he would show up in other stuff since. He's absolutely precious.
 
posted by [identity profile] flo-nelja.livejournal.com at 08:53am on 23/01/2011
For the meme, can I ask about Adric ?

 
posted by [identity profile] stunt-muppet.livejournal.com at 02:37am on 30/01/2011
Adric it is!

1) All the approval he's ever recieved has been because of his intelligence, his cleverness, his mathematical skill - and even then, it wasn't always enough. It wasn't enough to make his brother accept him. It wasn't enough to make people like him. Deep down, he's worried that nothing he does will be enough.

2) He's been under the supervision of the Deciders and the other community adults all his life; he's not sure how to function independantly yet, but at the same time he's always been precocious. He latches onto Four and Romana not only because they're the only older authority figures he knows anymore but because they're some of the only people who can challenge him mentally.

3) He's not used to girls - he didn't see many of them or interact with them much back home, hence his comments towards Nyssa and Tegan in serials like Four to Doomsday.

4) When Four regenerates into Five, he becomes much more vulnerable and much less alien; Adric abruptly loses his father figure then, and doesn't know how he's supposed to interact with him when he can't provide the comforting authority he needs.

5) He has a bit of a crush on both Nyssa and Five, for different reasons, and no idea what to do about either of those. ;)
 
posted by [identity profile] flo-nelja.livejournal.com at 03:40pm on 31/01/2011
Yay, I agree on all these!
 
posted by [identity profile] runyasan08.livejournal.com at 10:01am on 23/01/2011
That one with Maria (from Umineko) and Vector Prime (Transformers) with the latter trying to figure out what the hell she even is, because creating something from nothing just doesn't make sense that's not how the universe works etc.

this. this has to happen now, you know that?

as for the meme, i am.. going to ask... about... .........jfcidk D: Vector Prime. because Vector Prime is all sorts of universally-awesome and... universal. so you don't need a verse with him. ...kinda. hrm.

explain the logic behind that. for science!
 
posted by [identity profile] ivy-chan.livejournal.com at 05:06pm on 23/01/2011
The allergic to girls bit is why I will never watch another Nolan film, especially not the Batman ones. And seriously people, there HAS to be a better city out there to live in!

(MUPPET CHRISTMAS CAROL FTW.)

For the meme: Elizabeth Swann?
 
posted by [identity profile] melengro.livejournal.com at 05:33pm on 23/01/2011
Seriously, I like many aspects of Nolan's directing, but he really does seem to have...the only way to describe it is some sort of weird atavistic cooties issue. I really can't think of anything else to say that would fit.

NOW, THE UMINEKO+TRANSFORMERS THING. You must make this happen. MUST.

For the meme: Beatoriiche.
 
posted by [identity profile] laurus-nobilis.livejournal.com at 06:37pm on 23/01/2011
That other one where Blitzwing somehow falls into the PotC universe and becomes allies with Pirate King Elizabeth
... that would be so incredibly awesome. =D

And yes, PotC taking place in the Land of Fiction is one of those things that make perfect sense but it's hard to actually show in fic. It's going to be my new headcanon now, though. :P
 
posted by [identity profile] bluegoddess21.livejournal.com at 08:43pm on 23/01/2011
"A Muppet Christmas Carol is actually legitimately good!...it should be part of everyone's Christmas plans."

It's a part of my Christmas plans. I watched it recently just this past Christmas. It's such a good movie. I haven't seen Muppet Treasure Island in forever I forgot Tim Curry was in it. :O Clearly I should watch it again. And everything is better with pirates. :3
 
posted by [identity profile] stunt-muppet.livejournal.com at 04:27am on 03/02/2011
I used to watch it every Christmas when I was small, because I distinctly remember the brothers Marley terrifying me out of my young mind. It seems a bit strange now.

Even absent Tim Curry, Muppet Treasure Island is still a really great movie. It's clever and cute and well-designed and has great music. And then all that is in addition to the awesomeness that is Tim Curry. :D
 
posted by [identity profile] elliptic-eye.livejournal.com at 03:07am on 24/01/2011
I think your subconscious and my subconscious maybe go for drinks on their off hours and plot what kind of shit they're going to pull on us next night.

Meme! Liz Shaw, pls!

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