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Oh my god, Amanda Palmer, just stop fucking talking. (Warning: Link contains images of lynching and murders which may be triggering.)
If you didn't want to click the link, apparently Palmer has tweeted her distaste at the product placement in Lady GaGa's "Telephone" video, stating that "ironic product placement is only ok if you take no money & beyond that give all the income to something ironic. like the Klan."
Because nothing is more ironic and hip than racial hate crimes, lynchings attended like social events, and domestic terrorism. Are you that desperate to be Cool and Edgy, Ms. Palmer, that you'd call up an ugly, disgusting history of violence and murder as a fucking punchline?
Oh, wait, you've already complained that disabled feminists are oppressing you and your artistic vision, so I guess that's that answered then.
ETA: While I'm on the subject of fail,![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
isiscaughey has a great post on the double standards of male and female characters in fandom. You should check it out. (Erm, it's a post about fail, that is. I'm not trying to say the post fails.)
And now I think I'm going to bed. Will try to catch up on the flist tomorrow, assuming I am not full of work.
If you didn't want to click the link, apparently Palmer has tweeted her distaste at the product placement in Lady GaGa's "Telephone" video, stating that "ironic product placement is only ok if you take no money & beyond that give all the income to something ironic. like the Klan."
Because nothing is more ironic and hip than racial hate crimes, lynchings attended like social events, and domestic terrorism. Are you that desperate to be Cool and Edgy, Ms. Palmer, that you'd call up an ugly, disgusting history of violence and murder as a fucking punchline?
Oh, wait, you've already complained that disabled feminists are oppressing you and your artistic vision, so I guess that's that answered then.
ETA: While I'm on the subject of fail,
isiscaughey has a great post on the double standards of male and female characters in fandom. You should check it out. (Erm, it's a post about fail, that is. I'm not trying to say the post fails.)And now I think I'm going to bed. Will try to catch up on the flist tomorrow, assuming I am not full of work.
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But the reason everyone's yelling - well, at least the reason I'm yelling - is that it's just in such phenomenal poor taste to call up that kind of ugliness for a joke. It's like, if you were going for irony, you could have talked about donating to an anti-corporate organization or Consumer Reports or something.
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Of course, not having seen the music video or heard the song, that probably explains a lot about my confusion too. Even though Amanda Palmer's statement seems like it should conclude with "Your argument is invalid," for all the sense it makes.
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The video does have a *lot* of product placement, some of it more blatant than others (there are a couple of shots of a cell phone screen with the Virgin Mobile logo very prominently displayed), but I find myself watching it over and over again anyway because the song is so maddeningly catchy. What is it about Lady Gaga music that makes it get stuck in my head so fast?
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WHO THE FUCK CARED ABOUT THE PRODUCT PLACEMENT.
IDK, I went into a deep femmeslash spiral from the first phonecall that hit its feverish peak at the line "You've been a bad girl, Gaga." and just sort of flailed feebly for the remainder of the video. If that's not too TMI to say. >>
Looking back on it with a clear mind, the Virgin Mobile placement was jarring but other than that the products seemed diegetic, at least. The 50 cent HoneyBun was a character detail rather than an endorsement, yanno?
Also, I don't even want to wiki this, but is Amanda Palmer British? That might explain (although not excuse) her blithe mention of the KKK. I'm betting her local paper didn't mention that a rally was held nearby a few weeks ago, as mine did.
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(Though I only saw the YouTube version of the video, so I did not realize you could see that much. To iTunes I go.)
I thought that the Plentyoffish and Virgin Mobile product placements were the most egregious of the lot, but yeah, like you said, most of the rest (like the Wonder Bread and Coke cans in her hair) came across as part of the story or characters rather than as "Wonder Bread gave us money". I actually thought the Coke-can rollers were really clever, given the cigarette-sunglasses in the previous scene - a continuation of the utilitarian theme.
Wiki tells me that Palmer was born in Connecticut, and has lived in the US all her life. So yeah, she might not even be aware of how prevalent they still are.
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I was about to comment that the cigarette-sunglasses were anti-utilitarian, almost, since the function of the cigarettes is being wasted, but then I considered that maybe the point is that Gaga has so many cigarettes that she can afford to waste them. Rather than view this as a comment on the culture of consumption, I wondered what Lady Gaga had done, exactly, to acquire all those cigarettes. Prison commerce being what it is, and all. :3
No no, automatic fail. Even if Amanda Palmer is a Yankee, she's still from the U.S. so she should be aware that jokes about the KKK are never funny (unless they are at the expense of the KKK, and even then it's iffy.) Her shocking! edgy! suggestion wasn't even well done; she could have mentioned numerous other organizations that would have made her point more clear.
Cpt. Pike in my icon is yelling at Amanda Palmer, not you, btw. I love this icon but I can't use it that often because it's so rude! :(
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Ah, see, I thought "utilitarian" as in "using whatever was lying around to make herself look fabulous" without considering that in order to make cigarette sunglasses she had to not smoke the cigarettes, though as they were at least lit perhaps she just isn't a very heavy smoker and still has enough left of the cigarette when she's finished to add to the sunglasses. That and I was a little sidetracked considering what a miracle it was that her hair hadn't caught on fire.
And quietly squeeing that there was an actual butch woman in a music video omg omg.she could have mentioned numerous other organizations that would have made her point more clear.
Exactly! There are ways she could have made a comment about product placement - donating to the company's competitors, maybe, or one commenter suggested Consumer Reports. But those would apparently not be offensive enough.
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Waheeeey I have google skills! several pics from the same concert; obviously not worksafe. It looks like her costume didn't rip, it's just one of those one-pant-leg dealies. And, ahhh, Where was the double-sided tape? I bet a dresser-tech somewhere got yelled at for this. :/
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She has such pale and dainty labia! Same skin tone as her legs and everything. And wow, that's a sentence I wouldn't have thought I'd say, but life is full of surprises.
Oh, and completely off topic, but I showed Jo and Her Boyfriend that one episode of TFA yesterday, the one with Lockdown? And you know how when you watched it, you said "I didn't know robots could wiggle like that"? J said pretty much the same thing. Complete with "Oh my" and wide-eyed face. I was entertained and thought you might be as well.
Her Boyfriend had grown up with Transformers and was significantly more traumatized by the insinuations.
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Especially since they are looking *up.* :3
muahahahaha! see, see, it's not that i'm pervy, it's that these things are objectively true
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Suggestive bondage imagery seems to crop up in everything I watch. It's puzzling but not unpleasant.
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I mean, okay, people say stupid things without thinking sometimes, but she just kept going! I'll admit that once, in one of those 3 am, thinking = not so much moron moments, I said something about something being "Jesse Jackson at a Klan rally level of shocking". But it was also one of those things where I read it in the morning and went ".... am I a complete fucking moron or what?"
BUT THIS EVEN GOES BEYOND THAT TO ACTIVELY ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO DONATE FUCKING MONEY TO THESE FUCKS. I don't know what your laws in the States are, but I think in Canada that's technically a hate crime, encouraging donation to groups known to participate in violence, etc etc. See how ironic those cuffs feel when they snap 'em on your wrist.
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It's not even so much that she said it that makes me mad, although that is a part of it. It's the fact that she refuses to apologize or consider the feelings of people she's hurt or offended, doesn't seem to grasp that people can have legitimate grievances with something she says rather than just being too out-of-touch to "get it", and casts herself as a martyr to the "PC police". Aside from bing offensive it's just so...adolescent. So "look at me, look how edgy I am".
I haven't researched donation law here, but for some reason the Klan aren't considered legally terrorists (their actions can be prosecuted as hate speech or hate crime, but the organization itself can't be shut down in any official capacity) and thus I don't think there are any restrictions on donating. It depends on the organization in question, and I'm not sure where the Klan stands on the legal spectrum. Which...yeah, I kind of hope it is a crime, just because maybe that'd make her think about what she's saying.
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