ext_30709 ([identity profile] kayliemalinza.livejournal.com) wrote in [personal profile] stunt_muppet 2009-10-01 05:32 pm (UTC)

BWoC was never released on DVD or VHS, but it was more recently re-aired (in Australia, I think) so there's some pretty good rips floating around somewhere. I think I have them on my MAXTOR or on data DVDs someplace.

::nodnod:: Yes yes, buddy!slash is very reasonable. And with the archetypal duo we're discussing here, you still get the conflict/tension, frustration and occasional desire for revenge that I find attractive in FoeYay.


Infantilization is squicky, and also calling someone "Daddy" when, you know, they re one. There's a lot of Kirk/McCoy daddy!kink floating around that I always scroll past because McCoy has a daughter (at least in book canon and in my personal canon) and he's Southern, so she'll call him Daddy forever. I'm sure other readers and people with this kink IRL can differentiate and compartmentalize, but I can't.

I have some thoughts on a non-slash Kirk+Pike involving regulated corporal punishment in extreme circumstances (e.g., take some whacks or be expelled) where Pike is all ARRGH STOP MAKING ME DO THIS and Kirk is all like GRR NO I'M STUBBORN. and Pike is just disgusted that it's come to this and his disappointment is what really hurts Kirk.

Slash-wise, there's lots of fun things about Kirk grudgingly seeking Pike's approval, Pike mercilessly refusing to take Kirk seriously until he shapes up, Kirk realizes that Pike is a frelling awesome captain, etc.

Fun fact: Captain Pike was originally meant to be the main character, but when the studio requested a different pilot the actor decided to pursue his movie career instead. Rather than bringing in a different actor for the same character, Gene Roddenberry just changed the name and a few details (you'll notice their names still sound like, though.) So the idea of Pike being a good example for Kirk, of Pike being the kind of captain that Kirk wants to become, has deep roots in canon.

Also, Pike is just so much fun as an authority figure. My reasons for that are not shallow. Promise.

(brief tangent: how incredibly subby is McCoy, honestly? First the commander on the Shuttle: "Sit down or I'll make you sit down!" McCoy: (sits down) and Pike: "We'll have words about this later." McCoy: "Yes, sir" (looks anxious) and TOS, where Spock, in multiple episodes, advances upon McCoy in his smooth, threatening Vulcan way and then performs violence upon the doctor, and McCoy just freezes while Spock approaches, watching him with wide eyes, and does absolutely nothing to defend himself. I mean, sure McCoy is cranky and has a sharp tongue, but make a single threatening move and he flashes his belly.

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